Reality TV – Vergewaltigungsprozess als Volks-Entertainment

BBC plant eine Reality Show „The Verdict“ über einen Vergewaltigungsprozess, bei der eine Jury aus 12 Prominenten, darunter Blur-Bassist Alex James, über das Urteil eines fiktiven Vergewaltigungsfalls entscheidet. In der Jury sind laut Guardian u.a. der Ex-Fussballer Stan Collymore vertreten, der bereits wegen häuslicher Gewalt aufgefallen ist. In der Show geht um einen fiktiven Vorfall : Die Jury soll entscheiden ob zwei Fussballer ein 19jähriges Mädchen in einem Hotelzimmer vergewaltigt haben oder ob diese freiwillig mit diesen Sex hatte.
Der Prozess wird in vier Folgen ausgestrahlt, nach jeder Folge können die Zuschauer noch die Diskussionen innerhalb der Promi-Jury verfolgen, die in einem 5-Sterne-Hotel bei einem Glas Champagner stattfindet. Glamour spielt eine wichtige Rollle, die mit der Thematik verbundene gesellschaftliche und politische Dimension dagegen weniger. Ausserdem werden die Zuschauer aufgefordert, sich selbst eine Meinung zu bilden – anhand von Hintergrundmaterial und Zeugeninterviews, die es auf der BBC-Webseite gibt.
Einen Vorabclip gibt es hier. Kommentieren muss ich das wohl nicht mehr, positive Lerneffekte im Sinne einer Sensibilisierung sind wohl nicht zu erwarten. Bleibt zu hoffen, dass die Meinungsbildung nicht allzu reaktionär ausfällt und es noch etwas dauert, bis auch reale Fälle im Reality-TV verhandelt werden.


9 Antworten auf “Reality TV – Vergewaltigungsprozess als Volks-Entertainment”


  1. 1 tee 21. Dezember 2006 um 22:34 Uhr

    es gibt ein oder zwei filme mit demselben titel, die das thema behandeln. einen ziemlich schlechten und patriotischen hab ich gesehen, dort durften die zuschauer dann urteilen. ich empfinde dies schon als einen ersten schritt dahin, zumal die urteilsfähigkeit der jury durch die medien (potenziert durch die zuschauer) stark beeinflusst wird.
    alles in allem niemals reality, geschweige denn repräsentativ.
    zum letzten satz des beitrags: ohhh doch!

  2. 2 dodo 21. Dezember 2006 um 23:48 Uhr

    hab das auch schon wo gelesen, ich fass es einfach nicht!
    vergewaltigung ist für die betroffenen ja sooo spaßig, da kann man ja gleich die unterhaltungsindustrie damit beleben. ich mein, was sendet das eigentlich für signale??? daß vergewaltigung ja eh nix ernstes ist? daß es keine ausgebildeten juristen braucht, um so einen fall zu beurteilen?
    vergewaltigung wird sowieso schon viel zu oft trivialisiert.
    ich hoffe inständig, daß das nie gesendet wird. wenn das ding einmal läuft, ist das tabu gebrochen. öffentliche meinungsbildung wird dadurch auch beeinflusst, und ich bezweifle, daß das auf positive weise sein wird.
    sie hätten echt aus genug anderen kriminalistischen fällen wählen können, aber nein, es muß vergewaltigung sein – sex sells! das ist widerlich.
    und bbc verdient auch noch dran.
    ich versteh ehrlich nicht, wie man auch nur mit dem gedanken an so was spielen kann. geschweige denn das ganze organisieren, realisieren, mitmachen…

    ich hoffe, daß es genügend beschwerden gibt, damit das verhindert werden kann:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml
    (soll auf bbc2 laufen)

  3. 3 licht 23. Dezember 2006 um 13:27 Uhr

    schon allein der aktuelle fall „stephanie“ zeigt doch, wie reale vergewaltigungen in den medien ausgeschlachtet werden können. zb ein traumatisiertes kind von einem nicht-therapeutisch geschulten moderator [kerner] und dann auch noch vor laufender kamera zu seinen erlebnissen zu interviewen grenzt doch an perversion [es ist schwierig diesen begriff zu verwenden, ich weiß].

  4. 4 fucksun 23. Dezember 2006 um 13:52 Uhr

    Die landesweite Aufmerksamkeit für das Thema wird für die Konzernmedien ein gefundenes Fressen sein, um reaktionärste Propaganda aller Art ins Volk zu bringen. Etwa in der Richtung:

    -> Frauen haben nichts besseres zu tun als ständig grundlos arme Männer der Vergewaltigung zu bezichtigen, um Aufmerksamkeit zu erhalten
    -> überall auf den Straßen lauern Juden, Neger und andere Volksfremde um brave angelsächsische Maiden zu vergewaltigen. Nur die totale Unterwerfung unter ebenso reinrassige Männer kann die Frauen retten!
    -> (erfolg)reiche Menschen aus unserer Elite werden gnadenlos von Neidern und der Justiz verfolgt, während Ausländer vor sich hin morden&vergewaltigen, ohne dass es jemand interessiert

    Und natürlich alles davon gleichzeitig, da spielen Widersprüche keine Rolle

  5. 5 Doughnut Boy Andy 23. Dezember 2006 um 20:58 Uhr

    What the hell is going on here?

    Is anyone here aware about the current discussion in the UK about rape because of the new proposals to make changes to the law? Is there a difference in the case of rape when the accused is a wealthy prominent figure, especially one in entertainment? What role does the media society have on such cases in the UK? How are soap operas and other programs influencing the debate in the UK? What is the impact of a new trend of female binge drinking having in the UK? What is the current situation in rape cases in the UK? To what extent are rapists in the UK using date rape drugs? What role do women play in UK society and how do women there feel about the current situation in regards to rape laws? Are there any proposals at all or even in planning to put real cases on TV?

    Before these questions and others are answered I do not understand how you can come to these conclusions…. and I really am not here to defend the BBC, who I hate. Nor is my motivation to defend the country i was born in… its just that the current situation in the UK is complicated and these questions and therefore this program (that none of us have actually even seen) are an interesting development at the moment… one that with a bit of background knowledge many readers here may actually appreciate. If I am wrong in suggesting that your opinions are based on ignorance then please give some arguments – but as it stands I don’t see how you can come to these conclusions.

    @Dodo

    „vergewaltigung ist für die betroffenen ja sooo spaßig,“

    Who is claiming this? This is about giving the public an insight into the legal problem of rape cases, something that should interest them. It gives them the possibility to decide what they think and explore the problems involved. Subjects not to distant to some of the aims of this blog I believe.

    „da kann man ja gleich die unterhaltungsindustrie damit beleben.“

    Sadly people arent paid to watch TV and so yes they do watch it for entertainment. But documentaries are also in this sense „die unterhaltungsindustrie“ but create public interest in subjects. The BBC’s Auschwitz series was very good and made the subject of the Holocaust aware to many people in the UK. Last time I visited it was on and almost all my old friends were asking me about it knowing I lived in Germany.
    Rape is constantly dealt with on TV in various forms but rarely from this viewpoint and it rarely deals with the real problem of courts deciding on rape trials, a subject that is -because of obvious reasons- not usually discussed. Why is this show on the BBC suddenly the bad one?

    „ich mein, was sendet das eigentlich für signale??? daß vergewaltigung ja eh nix ernstes ist?“

    It is meant to make the public aware of the problems of such cases. I agree that choosing such strange high profile situations can lead to sensationalism but making people aware and creating discussion at a time of some social changes since the current laws were made and at a time that new proposals are suggested may indeed make the issue of rape be taken very seriously. That many women do not still feel they have a right to claim rape or that they then do not go to the police is still a big problem, but this is one dealt with on TV as well – just not in this show. I cant see how a discussion on the subject can be harmful, especially as most viewers are probably going to be women anyways as they are the slight majority of the UK population I think.

    „daß es keine ausgebildeten juristen braucht, um so einen fall zu beurteilen?“

    They are „ausgebildeten juristen“ or are you mistaking lawyers with jury? The jury are qualified by being citizens (UK subjects) and the jury is just that. By using prominent people they gain attention and also deal with people who are influential on public opinion as a whole – this is surely a logical step considering the aims of the show. Interestingly Lord Archer the ex (?)Conservative MP would not actually be qualified as he has lied in court before and has been prosecuted for it. And as for the champagne thing – I guess a big problem in the UK is that people rarely take jury duty seriously and never turn up. Glamorising it could have good effects on the system, especially in rape cases, as most jurors are pensioners and are often more conservative than the general public and out of touch with such cases – hence more „she was wearing a short skirt“ bollocks.

    „vergewaltigung wird sowieso schon viel zu oft trivialisiert.“

    Yes, I agree. But it is also a problem that it is rarely spoken about or debated in a politically apathetic UK.

    „ich hoffe inständig, daß das nie gesendet wird. wenn das ding einmal läuft, ist das tabu gebrochen.“

    Why? What taboo? It is dealt with all the time in the media (newspapers, soap operas etc) but I cant recall ever that such a discussion was had about the serious subject of rape before. Surely discussion and the raising of awareness are very important… in all aspects of „taboo“ subjects concerning sex and rape. Otherwise we end up with this:

    http://www.24dash.com/news/48/14500/index.htm

    in a country with the highest rate of unwanted teenage pregnancy in Europe but also one (if not the) of the highest % of women in top positions in Europe. Women in the UK (especially the younger generations) are more likely (in my experience) to go out, have fun, get drunk, enjoy their weekends and often end up choosing to take someone home in the evening than in many other European countries. It is acceptable behaviour but the prejudices in rape cases still exist and this is a real problem that exists. Why not want to open a discussion? Remember this show will just be the start of a discussion in the public that exists from a general worry at the minute. It was recently proposed that the law should be changed so that men have to prove that consent was given before having sex. This is a novel idea but hard to get through court on a purely legal basis. There was an idea that condom manufacturers should make the packet so that finger prints are clearly left by the woman for example but again this of course is not a rapist proof method- the topic is tough but i think it is very good that it is even being discussed…. no i correct that in that it is the minimum that can be done to have this discussion and it is sad that it isn’t being discussed to my knowledge elsewhere. If women are to go out and get drunk, thus breaking a taboo that existed at the time when the rape laws were made then it makes it hard for them to convince a court as they were very drunk at the time. This problem has to be dealt with as the answer cant/mustn’t be to restrict women drinking but cant be to make them increased potential victims when drunk – the same applies for date rape drugs that were never a factor considered when the current laws were made but are disgustingly often used. Problem is that the UK youth tend to take a lot of different drugs now; again a taboo has been broken. Such factors need discussion because the answer cannot be to insist that women do not drink, do not take drugs, do not dress themselves up, do not go to clubs and do not take their wish for sex seriously. This needs discussion from the general public, esp. women, who are affected and not something that should be decided by judges, politicians or police alone.

    „öffentliche meinungsbildung wird dadurch auch beeinflusst, und ich bezweifle, daß das auf positive weise sein wird.“

    Why? Many viewers are women who are directly confronted with the fear of being raped. Male viewers may realise the problem for their family, friends and colleagues. Rape is an important issue and opening a debate, starting a discussion is really important. If anything the jury will be very aware that they are on TV and that the public will judge their views. Everyone opposes rape but nobody is thinking about the problems that this entails or what it really means for them and those around them. Why do you think the public will not use this as an opportunity to break the only real taboo of rape – condemning it publicly but really ignoring it in private? I hope this taboo is broken. Rape is a complicated subject and the more that it is discussed and debated by the people it affects the better because the more people who think about it the better. Rape shouldn’t be something that happens and is then discussed but something that should be discussed before it happens, so that it doesn’t happen. And again I repeat that even if this show is shit, it is part of a broader debate at the moment and part of a discussion, not just sexist propaganda, as it seems to be seen here.

    “sie hätten echt aus genug anderen kriminalistischen fällen wählen können, aber nein, es muß vergewaltigung sein“

    Soap operas are very professional in the UK and deal with a variety of subjects. Generally TV is about a variety of crimes and everyday shit that happens to people. Rape is a real life everyday problem that affects society – just one people tend not to talk about. Why shouldn’t it be dealt with? Perhaps you are worried that it will just cement prejudices but nobody has seen the show yet and it is part of a larger discussion and a necessary discussion. And again, this is an issue that is currently under important scrutiny and part of a broader discourse.

    “ – sex sells! das ist widerlich.
    und bbc verdient auch noch dran.“

    The BBC is run by the taxpayer and has no adverts. It is paid for by a type of GEZ system and has the mandate to educate the public and take part in the political process by raising awareness and debate about political issues and themes. It don’t think it is directly “widerlich” that sex sells either but merely “widerlich” that we live in societies where everything is for sale. BUT: Rape is not sex and to correct you the BBC will not earn anything from this. BBC 2 is also the most serious of the BBC channels and the audience will see it as such and expect a serious attitude.

    „ich versteh ehrlich nicht, wie man auch nur mit dem gedanken an so was spielen kann. geschweige denn das ganze organisieren, realisieren, mitmachen…“

    and I dont understand how society can continue to pretty much ignore the real problem of rape and rape trials… I thought the subject of sexism and rape were here on this blog to try to create a discussion, make people form opinions and make women more aware that rape and sexism aren’t things to be ignored or not talked about. Rape is a crime and one that is rarely dealt with in a serious and open way.

    „ich hoffe, daß es genügend beschwerden gibt, damit das verhindert werden kann:“

    And I hope that a discussion in the UK continues so that awareness of rape is pushed into the public domain so that rape is avoided. I do not understand why anyone in Germany would want to stop this show being aired or write to complain to the BBC about it, especially a blog interested in sexism and rape. You don’t seem to have shown any knowledge of the situation in the UK but condemn this show without even seeing it because of an article in the bloody shit Guardian newspaper. I think you have to see this show and the statements from the women’s groups and rape victim charities as part of a discussion on rape and sexual violence in general, a discussion that, despite some negative aspects (here I agree), as a generally important step to take the real taboo of rape out of the closet and into the public domain. Perhaps it is sad that it takes a celebrity TV show to do this, but if it stops rapes then it is to be applauded. Silence and censorship are not realistic alternatives.

    I don’t often read this blog and this is my first comment here. I don’t agree either with everything posted here but I can see the importance of the discussion that your blog creates, even if its readership is very limited to a particular scene and may indeed not actually address the problems of women as a whole, may not in fact be appreciated by them as a whole. Still it is part of a discussion and this is positive. I was asked by a friend what I thought about this article and was annoyed enough to write such a huge amount of text in English. Sorry but my German isn’t so great on paper. But just as I can agree and disagree with this blog and see the broader picture of awareness and discussion, I fail to understand your criticism here of this show that is surely on a broader scale taking part in a very interesting discussion in the UK at the minute on the subject of rape.

    I would be interested in your comments, Andy

  6. 6 Doughnut Boy Andy 27. Dezember 2006 um 18:27 Uhr

    Einige Quellen:

    Hier die Webseite der „Campaign to end rape“

    http://www.cer.truthaboutrape.co.uk/index.html

    Bes. Statistik:

    http://www.cer.truthaboutrape.co.uk/3.html

    Artikel in The Times über das Problem bez Alk und Vergewaltigungsprozessen:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1888035,00.html

    Bericht über neue Gesetzpläne:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4662782.stm

    Die neue Werbekampagne in UK:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4803878.stm

  7. 7 Markus 02. Januar 2007 um 17:10 Uhr

    Wieder so ’ne schwachsinnige Reality-TV Show. Ich bin echt froh, dass ich fast kein TV mehr schau …

  8. 8 illith 25. Januar 2007 um 19:29 Uhr

    dass das eklich geschmacklos ist, braucht man ja nicht weiter zu erwähnen, aber mir erschließt sich der sinn dieser aktion überahupt nicht?? also weil das ja ein fiktiver fall ist --wie sollen die denn da entscheiden, ob das nun eine vergewaltigung war oder nicht?!

  9. 9 peace all over da world 04. März 2007 um 10:15 Uhr

    well i‘m doing research on the benefits of the reality tv shows, i dont think that reality tv juz hav the ugly side..becoz there are many types of reality tv that focus on job search, sports, game shows etc instead of talent-based shows..what do you think??

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